[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 548, Issue 2
Jack McDonough
mcdonough5 at verizon.net
Thu Aug 27 18:01:11 PDT 2009
Tom:
Check the Boston Waterboat Marina. I think they are less than the
Constitution Marina but there is no parking included. Boston Waterboat is
very conveniently located behind the Marriott Longwharf on State St.
jack
#947
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Page" <pagethomasa at gmail.com>
To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 548, Issue 2
> Boston slip vs Mooring
>
> I am on a mooring in Boston Harbor cost me $2600 for the season
> For a slip at Constitution Marina adjacent to Boston, it would have been
> $5544 for season
> Slip in Marina in Boston harbor would have been $6435 for season
>
> Next year I will be getting a slip at constitution marina, anyone in the
> group docking over there?
>
> Tom Page
> Jeannette III Hull #1138
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:11 PM,
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: Catalina Customer Service (niedobre at aol.com)
>> 2. Re: Mooring or Slip (bruceheyman at cox.net)
>> 3. Re: Value of this forum (Paul Rickman)
>> 4. Re: Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow (Paul Rickman)
>> 5. Re: Whale Fittings (Paul Rickman)
>> 6. Re: Mooring or Slip (Andrew Santangelo)
>> 7. Re: Mooring or Slip (Pat Moriarty)
>> 8. Re: Mooring or Slip (bruceheyman at cox.net)
>> 9. Re: Mooring or Slip (Jim Sweet)
>> 10. Re: Mooring or Slip (bruceheyman at cox.net)
>> 11. Re: Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow (Jon Vez)
>> 12. Re: Mooring or Slip (Jim Sweet)
>> 13. Re: Mooring or Slip (Andrew Santangelo)
>> 14. Re: Mooring or Slip (Mike Paris)
>> 15. Re: Mooring or Slip (Rick Evans)
>> 16. Re: Catalina Customer Service (Ken Danko)
>> 17. Re: A Diesel Fuel Tank Leak (Ken Danko)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:36:28 -0400
>> From: niedobre at aol.com
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Customer Service
>> Message-ID: <8CBF52A21DB6474-2E08-11836 at webmail-d019.sysops.aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> Ken,
>> I found a guy to weld my tank for $20.00 and he even pressure tested it.?
>> I
>> would not buy a new tank if I didn't absolutely have to.? Mine was only
>> leaking in the corner.
>> Gil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ken Danko <ken320 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03 pm
>> Subject: [C320-list] Catalina Customer Service
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,?
>> ?
>>
>> I would like to ask your advice on a customer service problem I am
>> currently experiencing. This is actually a continuation of the saga of
>> the leaky fuel tank. I found the leak, it was on the seam in the lower
>> corner. I called Catalina and said I wanted to order a new tank. The guy
>> I talked to took all my information and said that he would call me back,
>> he was going to check inventory, etc. A week went by and no call back. I
>> called again and got his voice mail. I left a message asking about the
>> status of my order. Another week went by with no call back. I called
>> again and was told that he was on the phone and would I like to leave a
>> message on his voice mail. I said no, and asked the woman to help me.
>> The man I originally talked to came on the line and said that he would
>> email me specs so that I could approve the order, he said that he wanted
>> to make sure that the tank fit. But I never got an email. So here it is
>> two weeks since I originally tried to order the tank and I still haven't
>> been able to place an order. It is prime sailing season. In my opinion
>> the weld on the tank was bad otherwise it should have lasted 20 years or
>> more. I am feeling like I should have bought a Beneteau. What should I
>> do??
>> ?
>>
>> Ken Danko?
>>
>> Grace, #802?
>> ?
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:42:22 +0000
>> From: bruceheyman at cox.net
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
>> <116334911-1251376946-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-455623339- at bxe1253.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
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>> Andrew,
>> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the allowed 3'
>> overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is true that No CA
>> is
>> cheaper than So CA.
>> Bruce
>> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:57:10
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> Ahhh - the great mooring vs. slip debate
>>
>> I have to say I am a boat slip person for many reasons:
>>
>> * Very easy for crew to get on and off
>> * I am always training new crew. Dock is better for training for
>> newbies.
>> * Guests - easy for them to use the facilities, and even that last
>> minute run to the head (vs. filling up the holding tank on the boat
>> too quickly).
>> * Kids - easy for kids. Easy access to the play ground, stores, and
>> aforementioned head.
>> * Easier cleaning the boat. Crew also helps cleaning boat - having
>> access to dock, hose(s) etc. makes life so much easier.
>> * Dock AC power is fine and very cheap.
>> * Pressure water off dock is fine - no need to wear down the boat's
>> pressure water pump.
>> * Easy access to laundry facilities.
>> * No need to use launch/dingy all the time.
>> * Easier to have marina and fellow slip mates monitor and check on my
>> boat.
>> * Easier for boat servicing by myself and others
>> * Easier loading/unloading gear.
>> * Never had a problem docking. Never a concern.
>>
>> Now a few more comments:
>>
>> * The marinas I have been at have been very quiet. Even 4th of July -
>> by midnight it is dead. I use and live on my boat a lot and to be
>> honest most of the time the marinas are dead silent except for sea
>> gulls and such. Which adds to my surprise statement - there was some
>> concern keeping my boat at Pier 39 on Fisherman's Wharf in downtown
>> San Francisco. The crowds, the noise and the mayhem. The truth be
>> told - at the marina it is very quiet. Shockingly quiet. I would
>> never know I am in a big city. As a matter of fact, in the morning
>> going to work it seems very few people are in SFO. Does any one work
>> before 10:00 AM there???? Also does anyone use their boats there?
>> There are a few live a boards, quiet and very nice, but otherwise the
>> boats just sit and do nothing. So no one will convince me it is
>> loud and rowdy at the marinas I have been at. Rarely see any of it.
>>
>> * Cost. Yes moorings are cheap, but slips are not that bad. I pay
>> under $400/month and it includes $3/day for parking in downtown SFO.
>> That is everything - water, electric, slip. Heck, one cannot park
>> that cheap in SFO! In Michigan it averaged about $400/month and that
>> included the yacht club membership. Either way, this cost is not bad
>> for all the added perks, convenience and time savings.
>>
>> Lastly, I have been a die hard sailor for 26 seasons, and for me the
>> slip is the only way to go. Do I anchor and explore, certainly. But
>> the main base is a slip. Keeps it easy for crew, family, friends,
>> newbies and "Dawn Treader".
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Andrew
>>
>> C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> #333
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:52:11 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Value of this forum
>> Message-ID: <170857.82620.qm at web84305.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> I am wondering if the clamp should be moved from time to time, this to
>> prevent wearing throug the
>> cable casing???
>>
>> Paul
>> Affinity 657
>> Bay Bridge Marina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mike Paris <mparis495 at gmail.com>
>> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:07:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Value of this forum
>>
>> A couple of years ago mine was doing the same thing - the throttle lever
>> would not stay above 2300. We tightened the bolt slightly and the problem
>> was solved. It is sort of like a c-clamp and it presses on the cable
>> casing.
>> Mine is accessable from the aft engine compartment.
>>
>> Mike P
>> 734
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Bill Sloane <southsoundbill at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > Are you saying I make the adjustment at the engine and do not need to
>> take
>> > off the compass?
>> >
>> > Bill.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Mike Paris <mparis495 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is clamp on the throttle cable down at the engine that adjusts
>> >> the
>> >> tension by turning a bolt that puts pressure on the cable. Have
>> >> someone
>> >> adjust the tension on the bolt while you move the throttle lever to
>> >> set
>> it
>> >> how you would like it.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Bill Sloane <southsoundbill at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I agree too.? My throttle problem is a little different.? Above 2,000
>> >>> RPM's,
>> >>> the throttle will fall back to a lower speed. To cruise at 2,500
>> >>> RPM's
>> or
>> >>> above, I have to tie the throttle to the vertical post of the NavPod
>> with
>> >>> a
>> >>> small rope.? I am thinking that if I take the compass off the
>> >>> housing,
>> >>> there
>> >>> must be a nut to tighten to keep this from happening.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bill
>> >>> No. 554
>> >>> 'Endless Summer'
>> >>> Olympia WA
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Rick Evans <
>> ericstillwellevans at gmail.com
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Gil
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I agree about the value of the group. I had that problem for a whole
>> >>>> season
>> >>>> before I decided to ask the group. It even resulted in me Shearing a
>> >>>> throttle lever bolt. I also assumed it was the cable but I asked
>> >>>> here
>> >>>> first
>> >>>> and was amazed.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Saved money and most likely two days upside down in some not very
>> >>>> fun
>> >>>> positions.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Rick
>> >>>> 724
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: niedobre at aol.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:36:25
>> >>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> >>>> Subject: [C320-list] Value of this forum
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Less than 2 hours ago I asked for some information about a throttle
>> cable
>> >>>> that was seized.? I assumed the cable was the problem.? I was
>> >>>> advised
>> >>>> within
>> >>>> less than an hour to disconnect the cable and check the linkage on
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> engine by two members who had the same problem.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I ran down to the boat to take their advice.? The cable was not
>> seized,
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> linkage to the engine was the problem.? I sprayed some corrosion
>> buster
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> the lever linkage worked it up and down and now it is fixed.? I was
>> ready
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> buy a new cable and replace it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Saved time and $$$$$.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Gil s/v Amara #731
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>> Message-ID: <61483.46513.qm at web84304.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> I recently found a welder who repaired the pin hole but he did caution
>> that
>> this was temporary
>> but probably would get me through the season and winter storage. So this
>> winter I plan to
>> either get a new one made from Catalina or buy the standard Yanmar parts.
>> I
>> have a question
>> about the putting the parts together. Is it necessary to put anything on
>> the threads when fitting
>> them together?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>> Affinity 657
>> Bay Bridge Marina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:13:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>>
>> Walter, you have two options--you can send your current elbow to Catalina
>> and they will make you a new one. Unbelievably (especially for a
>> production
>> boat), they don't have these on the shelf and apparently they are all
>> slightly different.
>> The other option is to 'convert' to a yanmar standard set up, which are
>> used
>> on newer hulls. If you buy a yanmar stock setup (from a Yanmar
>> distributor),
>> you need to buy 3 pieces--the riser, a connector and the elbow. Be
>> careful
>> though as most of the Catalina custom elbows are 1 5/8" and the standard
>> Yanmar is 2"? If you take this route, you have to adapt to your muffler
>> intake (where the hose attaches from the exhaust), which will match the 1
>> 5/8" hose diameter. Hope this helps...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>> Solstice #582
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Walter
>> Schaffer
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:02 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>>
>> Can anyone tell me how I can get a new Catalina Custom Exhaust Elblow.
>> Mine
>> has developed a pin hole is is rusting bad... There is a pix of one on
>> the
>> Assn. wedsite under tech notes. ?I contacted local Yanmar dealer in
>> Annapolis... and was told they have no such part.After taking heat
>> packing
>> off mixing elbow, it looks like it connects on engine end to a simple
>> exhaust elbow. And the other end hooks to muffler hose.... Engine water
>> enters horse shoe mixing elbow...If anyone has dealt with replacement, I
>> would appreciate some info.Thanks, Walt Schaffer Bohemian II, #515
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whale Fittings
>> Message-ID: <17285.11488.qm at web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> In this same area, just off that short hose and quick connect fitting is
>> a
>> short backflow preventer (Whale) that
>> then fits into another quick connect fitting, both Whale. I've replaced
>> the
>> two quick connect fittings
>> but not the back flow prevener which is the same diameter as the reqular
>> water line. Just at the end of a two day cruise, the back flow preventer
>> blew out of the "T" connector. This is the third time this has happened.
>> Apparently Whale has changed the back flow, it is shorter and just won't
>> work with my set up. Have any
>> of you had this experience and do you have a solution for it? Do you
>> think
>> extending the length of hose
>> would be a good fix? (to get it away from the heat) I've tried working
>> with
>> the West Marine Store in Annapolis just off Forrest Drive, but most of
>> the
>> Whale fittings there are in a box marked "quick connect"
>> sitting on a high shelf and no on display. They don't really seem
>> interested in working with the customer on
>> this sort of problem.
>>
>> IMHO the heat here may have something to do with the blow out. But it has
>> worked for many years.
>> My experience is the same with the newer fittings, no cap, no C spacer.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>> Affinity 657
>> Bay Bridge Marina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:04:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whale Fittings
>>
>> BTW, right at the start of this summers 2 week 'mini cruise' to Maine, I
>> had to replace the short (2 inch?) piece of hose at the hot water heater
>> you
>> mention.? Goodness knows why Catalina used such a short length.?
>> Interesting
>> chore while underway.? THIS time, I replaced it with a 6 inch length of
>> hose
>> (keeping another 6 inch piece as spare), figuring if either end leaked
>> again, I'd have room to cut the bad section away without replacing the
>> whole
>> run.? It also made working with the overall assembly easier.
>>
>> Bob Seastream
>> Intuition # 906
>>
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2009, at 11:36 AM, BAdams3491 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > Dave,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the tip.? Yesterday I did what you suggested...in? fact I
>> > left
>> > the cap off since it really does not do anything.? Worked? great.
>> >
>> > Bert
>> > At Ease
>> > #442
>> >
>> >
>> > In a message dated 8/18/2009 8:27:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> > djgleason1 at juno.com writes:
>> >
>> > Bert:
>> >
>> > I have experienced a similar problem with one of the? fittings.? The
>> > cap
>> > is there to keep the "C" spacer in place so that it? does not come off
>> > accidently.? What I have done is to break the cap to? remove the C
>> spacer.
>> > When I reinstalled the fitting, I simply wrapped a? piece of tape
>> > around
>> > the fitting to keep the "C" spacer in place.? I? note that the
>> replacement
>> > fittings I have used no longer use the Cap or the? "C" spacer.
>> >
>> > Dave Gleason
>> > Proud Mary, #150
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 16 Aug? 2009 12:40:12 EDT BAdams3491 at aol.com writes:
>> >> I have the standard 15mm? Whale fittings on my fresh water? system.
>> >> They
>> >> all come apart as they should except the two 90 degree? fittings
>> >> that go into
>> >> the hot water heater.? The connection away from? the? heater pops off
>> >> as
>> >> normal with the cap that? secures it sliding away from the
>> >> connection.? However
>> >> the side that connects to the water heater will not? come? off...hot
>> >> and cold
>> >> same problem.? The cap will not? 'pop' off.? When I try to pop it
>> >> off with
>> >> a small? screw driver, it will come partially off? at that one point,
>> >> but
>> >> that's all.? It's off far enough so the cap that? should? come off is
>> >> tight
>> >> enough so that it cannot be turned so I? can get at the? other
>> >> opening on the
>> >> opposite side to? try to get it off.? The other? problem is that the
>> >> fitting? is
>> >> so close to the heater that there is not enough? room for the? cap to
>> >> slide
>> >> back ...which appears to be why it won't pop? off in? the first
>> >> place.
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions? certainly appreciated.? Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Bert
>> >> At? Ease
>> >> #442
>> >>
>> >
>> > ____________________________________________________________
>> > Need? cash? Click to get a? loan.
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:07:33 -0600
>> From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <45A92CC9-DDD8-49D2-B5BC-DC3D125FF0AC at mac.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>>
>> To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> surprised.
>>
>> Andrew
>> C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> #333
>>
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> > Andrew,
>> > What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> > allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> > true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset 741 SoCal
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:17:07 -0500
>> From: Pat Moriarty <patm at psiurethanes.com>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <20090827141710.449112000E75 at proxy0.logixcom.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>> Latitude 38 ran a slip cost around the Bay a few years back and I was
>> shocked to find several places were less than I pay on a lake in
>> Texas but at over $500 you go me beat.
>>
>> Pat #130
>>
>>
>> At 09:07 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>> >Bruce,
>> >
>> >The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >
>> >To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> >surprised.
>> >
>> >Andrew
>> >C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> >#333
>> >
>> >
>> >On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> >>Andrew,
>> >>What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >>allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >>true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >>Bruce
>> >>Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >>Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>>
>> Pat Moriarty
>> PSI Urethanes Inc
>> PH: 800-888-5156 Fax: 512-837-8733
>> Please visit our web site at
>> www.psiurethanes.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:18:42 +0000
>> From: bruceheyman at cox.net
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
>> <114565727-1251382726-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1480608303- at bxe1253.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
>> >
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>> Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including electric.
>> Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> Bruce
>> Somerset SoCal
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Andrew Santangelo
>> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>>
>> To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> surprised.
>>
>> Andrew
>> C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> #333
>>
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> > Andrew,
>> > What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> > allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> > true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset 741 SoCal
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:32:24 -0500
>> From: "Jim Sweet" <jamesweet at frontiernet.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <66C066DEFB2B494F87018F49CEDD8EC2 at jamesweetPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Our slip @ the Sodus Bay Yacht club is $1200 per season so it's about
>> $200
>> per month. That's on Lake Ontario and it's pretty representative of the
>> costs locally.
>>
>> Jim Sweet
>> TGIF (Thank God It Floats) 901
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> > Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including electric.
>> > Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset SoCal
>> > ------Original Message------
>> > From: Andrew Santangelo
>> > Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> > Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>> >
>> > Bruce,
>> >
>> > The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >
>> > To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> > surprised.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> > C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> > #333
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >> allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >> true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >> Bruce
>> >> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:37:09 +0000
>> From: bruceheyman at cox.net
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
>> <1990364975-1251383836-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-518864413- at bxe1253.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
>> >
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>> Jim,
>> Floating docks?
>> Bruce
>> Somerset 671 SoCal
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Jim Sweet" <jamesweet at frontiernet.net>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:32:24
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> Our slip @ the Sodus Bay Yacht club is $1200 per season so it's about
>> $200
>> per month. That's on Lake Ontario and it's pretty representative of the
>> costs locally.
>>
>> Jim Sweet
>> TGIF (Thank God It Floats) 901
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> > Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including electric.
>> > Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset SoCal
>> > ------Original Message------
>> > From: Andrew Santangelo
>> > Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> > Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>> >
>> > Bruce,
>> >
>> > The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >
>> > To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> > surprised.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> > C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> > #333
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >> allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >> true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >> Bruce
>> >> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:38:19 -0400
>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>> Message-ID: <003301ca2724$0583f380$108bda80$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Just as an FYI on the repair or replace discussion. When I replaced mine,
>> I
>> found that Catalina has gone with a thicker gauge aluminum. It's sounding
>> more and more like the front corner leak is/was a systemic issue as that
>> is
>> where mine appeared...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>> Solstice #582
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Paul
>> Rickman
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:17 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>>
>> I recently found a welder who repaired the pin hole but he did caution
>> that
>> this was temporary
>> but probably would get me through the season and winter storage. So this
>> winter I plan to
>> either get a new one made from Catalina or buy the standard Yanmar parts.
>> I
>> have a question
>> about the putting the parts together. Is it necessary to put anything on
>> the
>> threads when fitting
>> them together?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>> Affinity 657
>> Bay Bridge Marina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:13:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>>
>> Walter, you have two options--you can send your current elbow to Catalina
>> and they will make you a new one. Unbelievably (especially for a
>> production
>> boat), they don't have these on the shelf and apparently they are all
>> slightly different.
>> The other option is to 'convert' to a yanmar standard set up, which are
>> used
>> on newer hulls. If you buy a yanmar stock setup (from a Yanmar
>> distributor),
>> you need to buy 3 pieces--the riser, a connector and the elbow. Be
>> careful
>> though as most of the Catalina custom elbows are 1 5/8" and the standard
>> Yanmar is 2"? If you take this route, you have to adapt to your muffler
>> intake (where the hose attaches from the exhaust), which will match the 1
>> 5/8" hose diameter. Hope this helps...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>> Solstice #582
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Walter
>> Schaffer
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:02 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Catalina Custom Exhaust Elbow
>>
>> Can anyone tell me how I can get a new Catalina Custom Exhaust Elblow.
>> Mine
>> has developed a pin hole is is rusting bad... There is a pix of one on
>> the
>> Assn. wedsite under tech notes. ?I contacted local Yanmar dealer in
>> Annapolis... and was told they have no such part.After taking heat
>> packing
>> off mixing elbow, it looks like it connects on engine end to a simple
>> exhaust elbow. And the other end hooks to muffler hose.... Engine water
>> enters horse shoe mixing elbow...If anyone has dealt with replacement, I
>> would appreciate some info.Thanks, Walt Schaffer Bohemian II, #515
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:52:35 -0500
>> From: "Jim Sweet" <jamesweet at frontiernet.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <774B0E53F7694490B41FBC140DC51A9A at jamesweetPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Yep. The bad news is we need to pull them Oct 15th for the season
>> because
>> the bay we're on ices up in the winter.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> > Jim,
>> > Floating docks?
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset 671 SoCal
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: "Jim Sweet" <jamesweet at frontiernet.net>
>> >
>> > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:32:24
>> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> >
>> >
>> > Our slip @ the Sodus Bay Yacht club is $1200 per season so it's about
>> $200
>> > per month. That's on Lake Ontario and it's pretty representative of
>> > the
>> > costs locally.
>> >
>> > Jim Sweet
>> > TGIF (Thank God It Floats) 901
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
>> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:18 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> >
>> >
>> >> Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including
>> >> electric.
>> >> Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> >> Bruce
>> >> Somerset SoCal
>> >> ------Original Message------
>> >> From: Andrew Santangelo
>> >> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> >> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> >> ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> >> Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>> >>
>> >> Bruce,
>> >>
>> >> The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >>
>> >> To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> >> surprised.
>> >>
>> >> Andrew
>> >> C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> >> #333
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Andrew,
>> >>> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >>> allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >>> true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >>> Bruce
>> >>> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:56:08 -0600
>> From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <D84F3917-3A46-470C-B72C-480F10914371 at mac.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>
>> On Lake Michigan on the Michigan side a slip, with haul out and winter
>> storage costs included, would run an average of $400 - $550/month.
>> Now you can keep the boat in the water in the winter with bubblers
>> running saving you money, however the wear and tear is not worth it.
>>
>> Of course the bonus here in SFO is sailing all year long (same for FL,
>> So Cal, Texas, etc). No haul outs for the winter. The big pain I am
>> learning - salt water does age a boat. :-(
>>
>> -- Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:18 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> > Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including
>> > electric.
>> > Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset SoCal
>> > ------Original Message------
>> > From: Andrew Santangelo
>> > Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> > Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>> >
>> > Bruce,
>> >
>> > The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >
>> > To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> > surprised.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> > C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> > #333
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >> allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >> true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >> Bruce
>> >> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:06:31 -0700
>> From: Mike Paris <mparis495 at gmail.com>
>> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID: <0191DD48-F2F8-4062-88E5-2173228345C2 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed;
>> delsp=yes
>>
>> My slip (35') at Alamitos Bay in Long Beach (S. Cal) is $370 and this
>> includes utilities.
>>
>> Mike P
>> 734
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 5:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> > Andrew,
>> > What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> > allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> > true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset 741 SoCal
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
>> >
>> > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:57:10
>> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> >
>> >
>> > Ahhh - the great mooring vs. slip debate
>> >
>> > I have to say I am a boat slip person for many reasons:
>> >
>> > * Very easy for crew to get on and off
>> > * I am always training new crew. Dock is better for training for
>> > newbies.
>> > * Guests - easy for them to use the facilities, and even that last
>> > minute run to the head (vs. filling up the holding tank on the boat
>> > too quickly).
>> > * Kids - easy for kids. Easy access to the play ground, stores, and
>> > aforementioned head.
>> > * Easier cleaning the boat. Crew also helps cleaning boat - having
>> > access to dock, hose(s) etc. makes life so much easier.
>> > * Dock AC power is fine and very cheap.
>> > * Pressure water off dock is fine - no need to wear down the boat's
>> > pressure water pump.
>> > * Easy access to laundry facilities.
>> > * No need to use launch/dingy all the time.
>> > * Easier to have marina and fellow slip mates monitor and check on my
>> > boat.
>> > * Easier for boat servicing by myself and others
>> > * Easier loading/unloading gear.
>> > * Never had a problem docking. Never a concern.
>> >
>> > Now a few more comments:
>> >
>> > * The marinas I have been at have been very quiet. Even 4th of July -
>> > by midnight it is dead. I use and live on my boat a lot and to be
>> > honest most of the time the marinas are dead silent except for sea
>> > gulls and such. Which adds to my surprise statement - there was some
>> > concern keeping my boat at Pier 39 on Fisherman's Wharf in downtown
>> > San Francisco. The crowds, the noise and the mayhem. The truth be
>> > told - at the marina it is very quiet. Shockingly quiet. I would
>> > never know I am in a big city. As a matter of fact, in the morning
>> > going to work it seems very few people are in SFO. Does any one work
>> > before 10:00 AM there???? Also does anyone use their boats there?
>> > There are a few live a boards, quiet and very nice, but otherwise the
>> > boats just sit and do nothing. So no one will convince me it is
>> > loud and rowdy at the marinas I have been at. Rarely see any of it.
>> >
>> > * Cost. Yes moorings are cheap, but slips are not that bad. I pay
>> > under $400/month and it includes $3/day for parking in downtown SFO.
>> > That is everything - water, electric, slip. Heck, one cannot park
>> > that cheap in SFO! In Michigan it averaged about $400/month and that
>> > included the yacht club membership. Either way, this cost is not bad
>> > for all the added perks, convenience and time savings.
>> >
>> > Lastly, I have been a die hard sailor for 26 seasons, and for me the
>> > slip is the only way to go. Do I anchor and explore, certainly. But
>> > the main base is a slip. Keeps it easy for crew, family, friends,
>> > newbies and "Dawn Treader".
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> > #333
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:12:28 +0000
>> From: "Rick Evans" <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
>> <1911303711-1251385932-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1276767105- at bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
>> >
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>> As for aging a boat. Its 6 of one half a dozen of another as they say.
>>
>> Keeping the boat in the water all the time is much better for a boat
>> structurally. All the loads and pressures are placed on the right
>> stringers
>> and stress factors of the boat.
>>
>> Out of the water especially here in NY the boat sits on stands and with
>> the
>> extreme temperature fluctuations the boat and materials expand and
>> contract
>> while the ground and the boat stands don't.
>>
>> This is evident to me in the winter on the hard when I go to my boat and
>> the rear state room door doesn't close and the bilge is hard to remove
>> etc.
>>
>> I'm sure leaving it the water is harder on the finishes but its easier on
>> the structure.
>>
>> Plus I wish I could sail all year long.
>>
>> Rick 724
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:56:08
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>>
>>
>> On Lake Michigan on the Michigan side a slip, with haul out and winter
>> storage costs included, would run an average of $400 - $550/month.
>> Now you can keep the boat in the water in the winter with bubblers
>> running saving you money, however the wear and tear is not worth it.
>>
>> Of course the bonus here in SFO is sailing all year long (same for FL,
>> So Cal, Texas, etc). No haul outs for the winter. The big pain I am
>> learning - salt water does age a boat. :-(
>>
>> -- Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:18 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> > Wow, 40' in Dana Point would cost 727 per month not including
>> > electric.
>> > Are slips more or less in the midwest or east coast?
>> > Bruce
>> > Somerset SoCal
>> > ------Original Message------
>> > From: Andrew Santangelo
>> > Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip
>> > Sent: Aug 27, 2009 7:07 AM
>> >
>> > Bruce,
>> >
>> > The slip is 40' x 15'. Definitely sounds cheaper up north.
>> >
>> > To be honest I thought a slip in SFO would cost a fortune. I was
>> > surprised.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> > C320 "Dawn Treader"
>> > #333
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:42 AM, bruceheyman at cox.net wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >> What size slip are you in. In Dana Point a 30' slip with the
>> >> allowed 3' overhang is costing me 503 per month. Sounds like it is
>> >> true that No CA is cheaper than So CA.
>> >> Bruce
>> >> Somerset 741 SoCal
>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:09:01 -0700
>> From: Ken Danko <ken320 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Customer Service
>> Message-ID: <4A96AF9D.6060706 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> I'm a little hesitant to call Frank Butler. I don't want to be a
>> troublesome customer and I don't want to get anyone in trouble but I
>> sure would like to have a new fuel tank delivered in a timely manner. I
>> emailed my broker who emailed someone at Catalina. So we will see. It
>> has been over two weeks since I first called Catalina to order a tank
>> and I still haven't been able to place an order.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Burti wrote:
>> > Call Catalina in California and ask to speak with Frank Butler. He will
>> > speak with you or will definitely return your call within a couple of
>> days
>> > at most...usually faster. Tell him what you told us as politley as you
>> told
>> > us and ask for his assitance.
>> >
>> > I found him to be a great customer service rep...unusual in that it is
>> his
>> > company ane he is the CEO...
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Ken Danko <ken320 at sbcglobal.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I would like to ask your advice on a customer service problem I am
>> >> currently experiencing. This is actually a continuation of the saga of
>> the
>> >> leaky fuel tank. I found the leak, it was on the seam in the lower
>> corner. I
>> >> called Catalina and said I wanted to order a new tank. The guy I
>> >> talked
>> to
>> >> took all my information and said that he would call me back, he was
>> going to
>> >> check inventory, etc. A week went by and no call back. I called again
>> and
>> >> got his voice mail. I left a message asking about the status of my
>> order.
>> >> Another week went by with no call back. I called again and was told
>> >> that
>> he
>> >> was on the phone and would I like to leave a message on his voice
>> >> mail.
>> I
>> >> said no, and asked the woman to help me. The man I originally talked
>> >> to
>> came
>> >> on the line and said that he would email me specs so that I could
>> approve
>> >> the order, he said that he wanted to make sure that the tank fit. But
>> >> I
>> >> never got an email. So here it is two weeks since I originally tried
>> >> to
>> >> order the tank and I still haven't been able to place an order. It is
>> prime
>> >> sailing season. In my opinion the weld on the tank was bad otherwise
>> >> it
>> >> should have lasted 20 years or more. I am feeling like I should have
>> bought
>> >> a Beneteau. What should I do?
>> >>
>> >> Ken Danko
>> >> Grace, #802
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:11:40 -0700
>> From: Ken Danko <ken320 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] A Diesel Fuel Tank Leak
>> Message-ID: <4A96B03C.6090703 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Larry:
>>
>> I'm starting to get desperate enough to try a fix like this. Everyone I
>> talk to at various boat yards tells me that these solutions are only
>> temporary and that the tank will develop a new leak soon after fixing
>> the old leak.
>>
>> The problem as I see it is the great effort it takes to replace tanks. I
>> really don't want to do it twice if I can help it.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Melissa&Larry Leibman wrote:
>> > Ken,
>> >
>> > If you know you are going to replace the tank anyway, I'm wondering if
>> > a
>> repair product like the one at the link below would be a temporary fix
>> just
>> to keep you sailing in the meantime:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1297554&kw=gas+tank&origkw=gas+tank&searchId=43201106574
>> >
>> > Not sure if this particular one is good for diesel but they must have
>> similar stuff for that.
>> >
>> > Larry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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