[C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing

[Allan S. Field]

Warren - I think we had this conversation last winter.  My memory is that
the pink from West Marine has the non-corrosive, the pink from Ace Hardware
does not.  Right? - Allan

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From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Warren Updike
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:15 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing

Thanks, Allan, for the info. I'm unable to drain the muffler via the
petcock. I thought that strange so I completely unscrewed the petcock and
inserted a coat hanger--nothing. Then I completely removed the entire valve
and tried the coat hanger--still nothing. Just seems not to work as a drain.
Yet, the muffler works just fine. So, I winterize with 1 gal. of purple
antifreeze diluted 50/50. It doesn't get that cold in Maryland.

Incidently, Jim Sweet mentioned that he uses the pink antifreeze in the
engine. I've been advised by our yard that the pink does not have the
anti-corrosives that are in the purple, and should not be used left in the
engine over winter.  --For what it's worth--

Warren & Pattie Updike
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay




-----Original Message-----
From: Allan S. Field [mailto:allan.field at verizon.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:22 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing

Warren - I also implemented this solution on my first boat about 20 years
ago.  Picture me sailing on the Patapsco in February, going below for a
minute, and standing in 4 inches of seawater.  It took me a few minutes to
locate the problem.  When I cut the intake hose, I installed a 3-way valve
in the line with a hose off one of the connections that went to the
anti-freeze bucket.  Adding the 3-way added just enough extra run to the
hose that allowed the alternator belt to wear a small hole through the
intake hose.  Since everything was below the waterline, 4 inches of very
cold seawater in the cabin.  The only thing that would have been worse was
instead of having 4 inches of water up over my ankles would have been a
sinking with very cold water up to my neck!  Lesson learned - make very sure
the intake hose is clear of all belts! 

Finally, I first drain the aqua lift muffler into the bilge by opening the
small petcock.  I then use a wet vac to clear the bilge, then winterize as
you describe. - Allan

-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Warren Updike
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:06 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing

Amanda Lu, after wrestling with this for three years, I finally cut the hose
at a convenient place and inserted an automotive flush connection. You can
buy these at any auto store. It has a screw-on cap with the same threads as
a garden hose. I have a short section of hose I attach to this connection
and stick in a bucket of antifreeze (not the same stuff used for the potable
water system.)  It only takes about one minute of engine time for the bucket
to empty. I have someone outside to insure that the color is showing at the
exhaust. Makes the job a no-brainer.

Warren & Pattie Updike
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay




-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ott [mailto:wmo48 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:11 AM
To: Catalina 320 Association
Subject: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing

Does anyone have any tips on winterizing the engine raw water muffler ? 
What about the exhaust lines ?  Raw water feed to the engine ?
Thanks in advance,
Mike
"Amanda Lu"
#508