[C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing & Repair

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Pat, 

I also had an intake flange leak in the muffler, probably from vibration, which I patched with two part putty and it is ok after 3.5 years.  Rollie  #182 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net> 
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:47:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing 

Pat, 

The petcock on my muffler corroded shut years ago. When you winterize the 
engine, you end up getting antifreeze in the muffler. I use the -100 for my 
engine. The reason is the ratings on the 50/60/100 antifreezes are for 
undiluted applications. Knowing that I will always have residual water in 
the system, spending an extra couple of bucks on the 100 ensures that even 
when diluted, I will be protecting the system. I'm in the northeast, so we 
get the same cold winters... 

Regards, 

Jon Vez 
Solstice #582 

-----Original Message----- 
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com 
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of pat reynolds 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:15 AM 
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com 
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing 

Do you have to drain the muffler?  I always run a five gallon bucket of 
clean water thru first and then put the hose in 2 gallons of antifreeze.  It 
gets pretty cold here in Chicago also but after 12 years no problem although 
I did have to replace the muffler this year due to a leak in the intake neck 
which I assumed was from vibration. 

Pat R 

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote: 

> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> 
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing 
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com 
> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 12:14 PM 
> Thanks, Allan, for the info. I'm 
> unable to drain the muffler via the 
> petcock. I thought that strange so I completely unscrewed 
> the petcock and 
> inserted a coat hanger--nothing. Then I completely removed 
> the entire valve 
> and tried the coat hanger--still nothing. Just seems not to 
> work as a drain. 
> Yet, the muffler works just fine. So, I winterize with 1 
> gal. of purple 
> antifreeze diluted 50/50. It doesn't get that cold in 
> Maryland. 
> 
> Incidently, Jim Sweet mentioned that he uses the pink 
> antifreeze in the 
> engine. I've been advised by our yard that the pink does 
> not have the 
> anti-corrosives that are in the purple, and should not be 
> used left in the 
> engine over winter.  --For what it's worth-- 
> 
> Warren & Pattie Updike 
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar" 
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Allan S. Field [mailto:allan.field at verizon.net] 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:22 AM 
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com 
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing 
> 
> Warren - I also implemented this solution on my first boat 
> about 20 years 
> ago.  Picture me sailing on the Patapsco in February, 
> going below for a 
> minute, and standing in 4 inches of seawater.  It took 
> me a few minutes to 
> locate the problem.  When I cut the intake hose, I 
> installed a 3-way valve 
> in the line with a hose off one of the connections that 
> went to the 
> anti-freeze bucket.  Adding the 3-way added just 
> enough extra run to the 
> hose that allowed the alternator belt to wear a small hole 
> through the 
> intake hose.  Since everything was below the 
> waterline, 4 inches of very 
> cold seawater in the cabin.  The only thing that would 
> have been worse was 
> instead of having 4 inches of water up over my ankles would 
> have been a 
> sinking with very cold water up to my neck!  Lesson 
> learned - make very sure 
> the intake hose is clear of all belts! 
> 
> Finally, I first drain the aqua lift muffler into the bilge 
> by opening the 
> small petcock.  I then use a wet vac to clear the 
> bilge, then winterize as 
> you describe. - Allan 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com 
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] 
> On Behalf Of Warren Updike 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:06 AM 
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com 
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing 
> 
> Amanda Lu, after wrestling with this for three years, I 
> finally cut the hose 
> at a convenient place and inserted an automotive flush 
> connection. You can 
> buy these at any auto store. It has a screw-on cap with the 
> same threads as 
> a garden hose. I have a short section of hose I attach to 
> this connection 
> and stick in a bucket of antifreeze (not the same stuff 
> used for the potable 
> water system.)  It only takes about one minute of 
> engine time for the bucket 
> to empty. I have someone outside to insure that the color 
> is showing at the 
> exhaust. Makes the job a no-brainer. 
> 
> Warren & Pattie Updike 
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar" 
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike Ott [mailto:wmo48 at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:11 AM 
> To: Catalina 320 Association 
> Subject: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing 
> 
> Does anyone have any tips on winterizing the engine raw 
> water muffler ?  
> What about the exhaust lines ?  Raw water feed to the 
> engine ? 
> Thanks in advance, 
> Mike 
> "Amanda Lu" 
> #508 
> 
> 
>