[C320-list] FW: Outhaul lost in boom

Wed Jun 16 11:08:06 PDT 2010

Bruce,
Sorry about that. I must have copied the wrong link from the C320 website.
It is in the Catalina 320 Mast  Catalogue on the C320 website
The link is

http://www.catalina320.com/filemgmt_data/files/Catalina320_Standard_Mast.pdf

Page 13

Please reply with comments when you look at this

Irv Grunes
2001 #851

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Bruce Heyman <bruceheyman at cox.net> wrote:

> Irv,
> I think I'm doing something stupid but not sure what.  When I click on the
> link it takes me to a sign in for Google Mail.  I don't have an account
> with
> them.
> Best,
> Bruce
> PS.  I sent this just to you not the list.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irving
> Grunes
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:27 AM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Outhaul lost in boom
>
> Bruce and all,
> Go to
> https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/1293f20e5e10f0cb
> and look at page 13
>
> Th#2 block is fixed where the boom meets the mast.
> The Beckett of the #1 block has a line attached that exits the end of the
> boom and we use that as the outhaul.
>
> If you look through the C320 website and I think the manu, it showed
> another
> kind of floating block that was a piece of metal with a pulley on each end.
>
> This was a scheme using that double pulley for a single line (Jiffy )
> reefing system where the reefing line to the luff reefing cringle went thru
> one  pulley. Then another line that terminated at the end of the boom went
> thru the second pully back to the end of the boom up to the leech reefing
> cringle. So that when the reefing line from the cockpit is pulled , it also
> pulled the luff and leech reefing lines at one time.
> I think that scheme has been discontinued and from reading the list over
> the
> years, most have removed that pully.
> On 2001 #851 there was a two line reefing system, where the hook for the
> luff cringle could also be used as a cunningham pull down went to a
> starboard side line holder. From the port side a boom straight thru line
> went to the leech cringle.
>
> Hope this may clarify whats in the boom of the C320's
>
> Irv Grunes
> 2001 #851
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Bruce Heyman <bruceheyman at cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Irv,
> > You got my curiosity going.  On our association web site in the manual
> > there
> > is a drawing showing the reeving for a single line mainsail reef number
> > one.
> > It shows that there are two separate lines in the boom and their lengths
> > are
> > provided on the drawing for standing and running rigging lengths.
> > Unfortunately I was not able to find any drawings or discussion on the
> > outhaul anywhere.  So I guess I don't know how 671's out haul is reeved.
> > Best,
> > Bruce
> > Somerset #671 SoCal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irving
> > Grunes
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:15 AM
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Outhaul lost in boom
> >
> > Bruce,
> > I am not confusing the 3:1 purchase block for the outhaul with the the
> > double sheave block that was used for jiffy reefing on some boats..
> > #851 does not have that jiffy reefing block.
> > Irv
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:38 AM, <bruceheyman at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Irv,
> > > I don't have my manual here but I thought they both had blocks in the
> > boom.
> > >  I may not be remember right as it was several years ago when we added
> > the
> > > second reef.  I thought the line length table listed two lines for both
> > the
> > > out haul and the first reef.
> > > Bruce
> > > Somerset 671 SoCal
> > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Irving Grunes <igrunes at gmail.com>
> > > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:46:12
> > > To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Outhaul lost in boom
> > >
> > > Bruce,
> > > Then what do u use for outhaul.
> > > Irv Grunes
> > > 2001 #851
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:21 AM, <bruceheyman at cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Irv,
> > > > I thought the first reef had a block for extra purchase and the
> second
> > > reef
> > > > was straight through.
> > > > Bruce
> > > > Somerset 671 Socal
> > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Irving Grunes <igrunes at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:23:12
> > > > To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Outhaul lost in boom
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > > Trying to make sense of all of the posts on this subject.
> > > > There seems to be some confusion as which line is to be used for
> what.
> > > >
> > > > We use the internal floating block with the 3:1 purchase for the
> > outhaul.
> > > >
> > > > We use the straight through line as the reefing line.
> > > >
> > > > Irv Grunes
> > > > 2001 #851
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Larry Frank <WindSwept at stx.rr.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have often wondered the reason for the internal block.  It does
> > mean
> > > > that
> > > > > there is twice as much line holding the tack and clew down and with
> > two
> > > > > lines there will be less stretch than one.  Any stretch in the
> > reefing
> > > > > lines
> > > > > during a gust will allow the tack and clew to raise a little making
> > the
> > > > > sail
> > > > > draft deeper adding to the heeling forces, just what you do not
> want
> > to
> > > > > happen at this point.
> > > > >
> > > > > You could accomplish a reduction in stretch by using a higher tech
> > low
> > > > > stretch line too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry
> > > > > Windswept C320 #246
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > > > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> > MICHAEL
> > > > COLE
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:00 AM
> > > > > To: Catalina320
> > > > > Subject: [C320-list] Outhaul lost in boom
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter I took that internal block out some years ago when putting in
> a
> > > 2nd
> > > > > reefing line. I've never missed it . Both reefing lines work
> > perfectly
> > > > well
> > > > > without it
> > > > >               Mike Cole     "Mio Dio" # 421
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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