[C320-list] Replacement sails and other upgrades

[Bruce Heyman]

Irv,
With a fixed pennant how do you use it as a topping lift?  Or lower it to replace the dutchman lines?
Bruce
Somerset 

Bruce Heyman
949 289-8400

Irving Grunes <igrunes at gmail.com> wrote:

>Alan,
>We had a new sail by UK Halsey in Annapolis
>His recommendation was to use a three line Dutchman and use a fixed
>Dutchman pennant rather than the the pulley system.
>I can assure you that it is a pleasure because it really controls the sail
>extremely well when dropping it.
>
>And he used just slits in the sail reinforced with webbing for the Dutchman
>holes in the sail instead of the plastic discs.
>And we bought a full batten and loose foot as well.
>He also recommended the plastic sail track but since our boat is in a
>partnership, we did not go for the extra $1000. the track would cost, but
>it sure works well where we have seen it.
>Irv Grunes
>2001 #851
>
>On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Alan Goodman <goodmanalanlee at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> Irv - now that you mention it (it never crossed my mind) on would think a
>> three line Dutchman would handle the sail better when flaking.  I have seen
>> three lines on C42s but does anyone actually have three lines on a C320?
>>  Would that raise the price to $750 for installing the plastic disks ...
>>  ouch.    Alan Hull 67 Holland MI
>>
>>
>> > Message: 4
>> > Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:02:09 -0500
>> > From: Irving Grunes <igrunes at gmail.com>
>> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Replacement sails and other upgrades
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>> > Alan
>> > If going new, I suggest 3 line Dutchman and loose footed main.
>> > Irv Grunes
>> > #851
>> >
>> > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Alan Goodman <
>> goodmanalanlee at hotmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have the original sails (hull 67 1994) and while I considered moving
>> to
>> > > a bigger boat (C400), I decided to keep the C320.  So now I am going to
>> > > have to make the expense (is anything spent on a boat ever an
>> investment?)
>> > > for several upgrades.  I would appreciate your feedback as to how to
>> go and
>> > > what you may have paid for a similar upgrade.
>> > >
>> > > I almost pulled the trigger earlier this month while Catalina Direct
>> had a
>> > > 15% off discount on sails, but with only a day left before the sale
>> expired
>> > > I felt rushed and did not order them.  CD sells Ullman sails from a
>> Ventura
>> > > CA loft.  I am a Great Lakes cruiser (similar to coastal ocean
>> conditions),
>> > > so I am interested in Dacron, about 7.0 oz.  I currently have full
>> battens
>> > > and a bolt rope foot.  I also have the Dutchman flaking system, and CD
>> > > wanted $500 extra to install the plastic disks/grommets in the sail.
>>  That
>> > > seemed a bit excessive to me.  Most likely I will be moving to a bigger
>> > > boat in about 4 years (full retirement afloat), if that affects your
>> > > recommendations.  Do any of the racers on the forum have gently used
>> Dacron
>> > > sails they might wish to part with?  Does anyone single hand a slab
>> flaked
>> > > main without a Dutchman or Lazy jacks?   The head sail seems to me to
>> be an
>> > > easier choice (less decisions).  Same fabric weight as the main, foam
>> luff,
>> > > leach and foot cords, etc.  I am looking for thoughts based upon value
>> ...
>> > > i.e. price to performance.
>> > >
>> > > I also am going to have new interior cushions made for the salon.  Any
>> > > recommendations as to foam density, foam thickness, other issues I may
>> not
>> > > be thinking about?  My OEM settee and dinette cushions extend beyond
>> the
>> > > leading edge (i.e. overhang) of the fiberglass bench structure but do
>> not
>> > > provide any support.  The edge of these cushions simply roll down
>> behind my
>> > > calves and are uncomfortable.  Anyone have new cushions made that are
>> flush
>> > > with the leading edge of the fiberglass bench structure?  Any thoughts
>> > > about why it might be a good or bad idea?  Also, anyone have any price
>> > > information as to what I should expect to pay (I'll be taking the
>> existing
>> > > cushions around for quotes right after the new year).
>> > >
>> > > Lastly, I bought a tufted topper for the aft berth cushions but still
>> > > don't find the sleeping conditions comfortable.  So I will definitely
>> be
>> > > purchasing a mattress.  Options are foam or coil spring (I also tried a
>> > > Coleman air mattress, but it felt way too cold in the early spring and
>> late
>> > > fall).  Again, any advice thoughts appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > That probably exhausts my boat budget for the upcoming year  ...  air
>> > > conditioning and a below deck autopilot are in my dreams.
>> > >
>> >
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