[C320-list] Rigging issue

[Jeff Hare]

Great information Ray!  Thanks for chiming in on this.

-Jeff 

-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Ray Yager
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:27 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rigging issue

Mark said to keep the mast straight up.  Skip the extra toggle at the forestay.  Raking the mast back induces too much weather helm. He still heavily recommends the back-stay adjuster.


On 5/27/14, 3:20 PM, tharrison at innovations-plus.com wrote:
> I have a wing keel !
>
> So what is the necessary modifications !
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 27, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Ray Yager <ray.yager56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I talked with Mark about his article just yesterday. The caveat is that it applies only to fin keels, not wing keels.
>>
>> Ray Yager
>> S/V Beach House #432
>>
>>> On 5/22/14, 11:25 AM, Jeff Hare wrote:
>>> FYI:
>>> Mark Yeager's article is here:
>>>
>>> http://www.catalina320.com/article.php?story=20040828173431380
>>>
>>> Still a pretty decent reference article for everyone to read.
>>>
>>> -Jeff Hare
>>> Woodbine II #809
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Robert Sloat
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:16 AM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rigging issue
>>>
>>> Ted-On my hull 894 (2002) when launched on the second season I had 
>>> the same problem.  When the boat was commissioned new the previous 
>>> season the dealer tightened the forestay turn buckle under the 
>>> furler after the rig and backstays were connected.  The forestay was 
>>> rock hard then and when launching and stepping the mast for season 2 
>>> the back stays could not be connected.  Since I am in the midwest 
>>> where the mast comes down every season and to eliminate having to 
>>> used the main halyard to help connect the backstays, the dealer who 
>>> was around at launch graciously bought 2 short shackles to help with 
>>> the install which went fine.  You can check out the Schafer owners 
>>> manual on how to lengthen the forestay so you don’t need the 
>>> shackles on the back stays the next go round.  After a few seasons I 
>>> lengthened the forestay and eliminated the shackles.  The forestay 
>>> was lengthened to give a loose forestay and backstay adjusters were installed to control forestay sag for differing wind conditions.
>>>
>>> On the latter check out Quantum Sail’s Yeager article on the C320 
>>> forestay hardness and backstay adjuster selection which should be on 
>>> our C320 site somewhere in the archives.  It may even have been in 
>>> Mainsheet.  It was at least 5 or more years ago and pretty good.
>>>
>>> Bob Sloat
>>> Savannah 894 (2002)
>>> Waukegan Harbor, IL
>>>> On May 20, 2014, at 2:46 PM, tharrison at innovations-plus.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I cannot get my backstays connected. After I connect the port 
>>>> backstay bridle the starboard Backstay bridle is about 3 inches short.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a Schaefer 2000 forestay. The Catalina rigging length 
>>>> specification shows this as 42 feet 11 ¼ inches. (note the Hood 
>>>> specification is 43 feet 3 ¾ inches) – 4 inches of difference.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Aft Lower Shrouds show a length of 14 feet, 11 ½ inches and the 
>>>> backstay bridle as 13 feet 3 ½ inches.(8 inches of difference) This 
>>>> difference would be notices when we attaches the side turnbuckles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is a 1997 Catalina.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We stepped the mast by connecting all electrical and the lowered 
>>>> the mast on the step.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We then connected the Schaefer furling (foil).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We then tried to connect the backstays and not even close. To just 
>>>> get the mast on we used 1.5 inch shackles on each side. The 
>>>> turnbuckles are
>>> just on.
>>>>
>>>> This is our first time rigging the boat and our second summer. When 
>>>> we hauled it out last fall the backstay had tension and the sprang fee.
>>>> We did not adjust the turnbuckle on the foil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We rigged a Catalina 34 before we tried to do ours and not a problem.
>>>> We looked at another Catalina 320 and a 36 and both skipper said 
>>>> they have
>>> no
>>>> problems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone encountered this problem? Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>> Bob Sloat