[C320-list] Rigging issue

[Karl Krueger]

Ray:

I want to make certain I understand this clearly.  Skip the extra toggle at
the forestay for just wing keels or all C320's?

Karl Krueger
Kindred Spirit #282
Milwaukee WI


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Ray Yager <ray.yager56 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark said to keep the mast straight up.  Skip the extra toggle at the
> forestay.  Raking the mast back induces too much weather helm. He still
> heavily recommends the back-stay adjuster.
>
>
>
> On 5/27/14, 3:20 PM, tharrison at innovations-plus.com wrote:
>
>> I have a wing keel !
>>
>> So what is the necessary modifications !
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>  On May 27, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Ray Yager <ray.yager56 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I talked with Mark about his article just yesterday. The caveat is that
>>> it applies only to fin keels, not wing keels.
>>>
>>> Ray Yager
>>> S/V Beach House #432
>>>
>>>  On 5/22/14, 11:25 AM, Jeff Hare wrote:
>>>> FYI:
>>>> Mark Yeager's article is here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.catalina320.com/article.php?story=20040828173431380
>>>>
>>>> Still a pretty decent reference article for everyone to read.
>>>>
>>>> -Jeff Hare
>>>> Woodbine II #809
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Robert Sloat
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:16 AM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rigging issue
>>>>
>>>> Ted-On my hull 894 (2002) when launched on the second season I had the
>>>> same
>>>> problem.  When the boat was commissioned new the previous season the
>>>> dealer
>>>> tightened the forestay turn buckle under the furler after the rig and
>>>> backstays were connected.  The forestay was rock hard then and when
>>>> launching and stepping the mast for season 2 the back stays could not be
>>>> connected.  Since I am in the midwest where the mast comes down every
>>>> season
>>>> and to eliminate having to used the main halyard to help connect the
>>>> backstays, the dealer who was around at launch graciously bought 2 short
>>>> shackles to help with the install which went fine.  You can check out
>>>> the
>>>> Schafer owners manual on how to lengthen the forestay so you don’t need
>>>> the
>>>> shackles on the back stays the next go round.  After a few seasons I
>>>> lengthened the forestay and eliminated the shackles.  The forestay was
>>>> lengthened to give a loose forestay and backstay adjusters were
>>>> installed to
>>>> control forestay sag for differing wind conditions.
>>>>
>>>> On the latter check out Quantum Sail’s Yeager article on the C320
>>>> forestay
>>>> hardness and backstay adjuster selection which should be on our C320
>>>> site
>>>> somewhere in the archives.  It may even have been in Mainsheet.  It was
>>>> at
>>>> least 5 or more years ago and pretty good.
>>>>
>>>> Bob Sloat
>>>> Savannah 894 (2002)
>>>> Waukegan Harbor, IL
>>>>
>>>>> On May 20, 2014, at 2:46 PM, tharrison at innovations-plus.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot get my backstays connected. After I connect the port backstay
>>>>> bridle the starboard Backstay bridle is about 3 inches short.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a Schaefer 2000 forestay. The Catalina rigging length
>>>>> specification shows this as 42 feet 11 ¼ inches. (note the Hood
>>>>> specification is 43 feet 3 ¾ inches) – 4 inches of difference.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Aft Lower Shrouds show a length of 14 feet, 11 ½ inches and the
>>>>> backstay bridle as 13 feet 3 ½ inches.(8 inches of difference) This
>>>>> difference would be notices when we attaches the side turnbuckles.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a 1997 Catalina.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We stepped the mast by connecting all electrical and the lowered the
>>>>> mast on the step.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We then connected the Schaefer furling (foil).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We then tried to connect the backstays and not even close. To just get
>>>>> the mast on we used 1.5 inch shackles on each side. The turnbuckles are
>>>>>
>>>> just on.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is our first time rigging the boat and our second summer. When we
>>>>> hauled it out last fall the backstay had tension and the sprang fee.
>>>>> We did not adjust the turnbuckle on the foil.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We rigged a Catalina 34 before we tried to do ours and not a problem.
>>>>> We looked at another Catalina 320 and a 36 and both skipper said they
>>>>> have
>>>>>
>>>> no
>>>>
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone encountered this problem? Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted
>>>>>
>>>> Bob Sloat
>>>>
>>>
>


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