[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 2931, Issue 1: 1. Throttle issue (Onat Dogruer)

[Doug Treff]

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On Thu, Jul 6, 2017, at 07:51 AM, Gus Macdonald wrote:
> Can you please describe the location of the exhaust elbow and the
> procedure for inspection and cleaning. 
> 
> Gus
> Hull # 999
> > On Jul 5, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Daniel Enright <enrightd at cox.net> wrote:
> > 
> > You have a clogged (mixing elbow) exhaust elbow.  I had the same issue last
> > week.
> > 
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> > Today's Topics:
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> >   1. Throttle issue (Onat Dogruer)
> >   2. Fuel sending gauge (Jeffrey Brown)
> >   3. Re: Fuel sending gauge (Graeme Clark)
> >   4. Re: Fuel sending gauge (Jeffrey Brown)
> >   5. Re: Fuel sending gauge (Rick Sulewski)
> > 
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 17:43:59 -0400
> > From: Onat Dogruer <onat_s at yahoo.com>
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: [C320-list] Throttle issue
> > Message-ID: <636330.17839.bm at smtp221.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > We have the Yanmar 3GM30F(EU) on our 1998 and this weekend I noticed a
> > problem with throttle. There is no RPM pick up once I pass 2200 and then
> > when I push the trottle all the way, it only pushes out 2860 rpm. I first
> > thought the cable was slipping so I checked both the helm arm and on
> > governor arm side connections. It looks normal. I then tried it in neutral
> > and noticed that I can get full 3660 rpm on neutral (checked with a laser
> > tachometer) Went out for a short cruise and again noticed that I can't get
> > more than 2800 in Forward.?
> > Also fuel looks clean. I am going to change the fuel filter regardless. The
> > issue seem to be only when we are on forward which doesn't make any sense.
> > What am I missing here? Any thoughts?
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 09:04:47 -0700
> > From: Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com>
> > To: Catalina C320 List List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] Fuel sending gauge
> > Message-ID: <C73C60D1-1A9C-4994-9B86-F95B9276719A at mac.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > I'm hull 78 and wondering if anyone near my hull number replaced their fuel
> > sending gauge without pulling out the tank. One of the bolts is hard to get
> > to. Just wondering before I begin removal of the tank. I'm even considering
> > replacing the whole tank if I'm going to this much work. Any thoughts?
> > 
> > Jeff Brown
> > 949-350-5123
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 17:07:21 +0100
> > From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> > To: Catalina list <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel sending gauge
> > Message-ID: <3D7DA3F2-4951-4FC6-A498-33EB97F9E445 at skyflyer.co.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > Have you removed the two wooden floor pieces above the tank. It?s fiddly but
> > it can be done.
> > 
> > Graeme
> > 
> >> On 4 Jul 2017, at 17:04, Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I'm hull 78 and wondering if anyone near my hull number replaced their
> > fuel sending gauge without pulling out the tank. One of the bolts is hard to
> > get to. Just wondering before I begin removal of the tank. I'm even
> > considering replacing the whole tank if I'm going to this much work. Any
> > thoughts?
> >> 
> >> Jeff Brown
> >> 949-350-5123
> > 
> > ???????????????????
> > I work irregular hours and often write emails late in the evening and at
> > weekends; that doesn?t mean I expect you to do the same; reply when
> > convenient!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 09:10:54 -0700
> > From: Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com>
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel sending gauge
> > Message-ID: <35F8B40F-BF3F-44FF-9549-D559FC579426 at mac.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > 
> > Yes I did. The problem is one or two of the five bolts that hold the unit in
> > are underneath some fiberglass from the aft storage locker that comes out.
> > The space isn't sufficient to allow the bolt to be removed. I need to lift
> > the tank out a bit but that requires moving around a lot of stuff. 
> > 
> > Jeff Brown
> > 949-350-5123
> > 
> >> On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Jeff
> >> 
> >> Have you removed the two wooden floor pieces above the tank. It?s fiddly
> > but it can be done.
> >> 
> >> Graeme
> >> 
> >>> On 4 Jul 2017, at 17:04, Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I'm hull 78 and wondering if anyone near my hull number replaced their
> > fuel sending gauge without pulling out the tank. One of the bolts is hard to
> > get to. Just wondering before I begin removal of the tank. I'm even
> > considering replacing the whole tank if I'm going to this much work. Any
> > thoughts?
> >>> 
> >>> Jeff Brown
> >>> 949-350-5123
> >> 
> >> ???????????????????
> >> I work irregular hours and often write emails late in the evening and at
> > weekends; that doesn?t mean I expect you to do the same; reply when
> > convenient!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 13:42:10 -0400
> > From: "Rick Sulewski" <rsulewski at bex.net>
> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel sending gauge
> > Message-ID: <000401d2f4ec$dd5c0420$98140c60$@bex.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
> > 
> > Jeff,  Early 320 hulls had the thinner walled fuel tanks that are more prone
> > to leaking over time. It is not a matter of if an aging aluminum tank will
> > leak, but when. Cleaning up the fuel after a leaking tank or even from a
> > replacement fuel tank sensor, is a real pain. Even a small amount of the
> > fuel will find its way under the hull liner and move about requiring
> > repeating some multi-step processes to get out all of the fuel and the
> > odors. Imagine discovering a large amount of fuel under the liner....   I
> > replaced my tank on hull #277 tank after having a fuel sender leak on my
> > topped off tank over a winter storage period. I found the tank replacement
> > to be much less work than cleaning up the leaked fuel. I did not want to
> > repeat the fuel cleaning process when  my tank finally failed (with my luck
> > would occur over a storage season). You can save yourself a lot of work if
> > you can find your way to replace the tank earlier than later. I also
> > replaced the fuel hoses from the tank
> >  to the engine when I replaced the tank to ensure the next likely leak
> > source was addressed. As our 320 hulls age, there are some predictable
> > preventative maintenance schedules that could be gleaned from this owner
> > list to avoid sailing season interruptions and avoid predictable problems.
> > Replacing an aging original fuel tank on early hulls that had thin walled
> > tanks is one such preventative maintenance task that will improve your
> > vessel's condition, rather than waiting for a predictable failure!
> > 
> > If you really want to take your chances on your older tank given your hull
> > #, you can hang upside down from the aft corner locker (after removing the
> > lid)  and then go about replacing the fuel sender. You will need to remove
> > the wooden shelf pieces above the tank and then find the correct tools to
> > reach/replace all of the sender screws. Just as a precaution, I suggest that
> > you consider applying some  fuel resistant sealant paste, (like from NAPA -
> > white, that is used when installing a fuel fitting) and paint (goo-up) the
> > replaced fuel gauge sender unit AFTER it is installed. Be sure to heavily
> > coat all areas of the sender, including all of the screws and around the
> > gasket, but  only after installing the fuel sender and only after checking
> > that your fuel gauge is working to ensure you have properly re-attached all
> > of the wires and connectors.  The sealant will help to keep fuel from ever
> > leaking from fuel sender gasket edges and from screws securing the sender,
> > all potential l  eak areas as l I learned. I applied the sealant to a
> > leaking sender and that solved my leak problem for one season before finally
> > determined it was time to avoid another fuel clean-up and just replace the
> > tank at the end of the season after I had used up most all of the fuel
> > leaving me with a nearly empty tank.  If you decide to replace the tank, be
> > sure to order an access port for about $65, so you can more easily clean up
> > the tank by hand if ever necessary or simply access the tank to pump out
> > about a half-gallon of the dirty fuel gunk and water that will settle to the
> > bottom after about every 3-5 years.
> > Rick Sulewski
> > C320 95' Hull # 277 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
> > Of Jeffrey Brown
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2017 12:11 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel sending gauge
> > 
> > Yes I did. The problem is one or two of the five bolts that hold the unit in
> > are underneath some fiberglass from the aft storage locker that comes out.
> > The space isn't sufficient to allow the bolt to be removed. I need to lift
> > the tank out a bit but that requires moving around a lot of stuff. 
> > 
> > Jeff Brown
> > 949-350-5123
> > 
> >> On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Jeff
> >> 
> >> Have you removed the two wooden floor pieces above the tank. It?s fiddly
> > but it can be done.
> >> 
> >> Graeme
> >> 
> >>> On 4 Jul 2017, at 17:04, Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I'm hull 78 and wondering if anyone near my hull number replaced their
> > fuel sending gauge without pulling out the tank. One of the bolts is hard to
> > get to. Just wondering before I begin removal of the tank. I'm even
> > considering replacing the whole tank if I'm going to this much work. Any
> > thoughts?
> >>> 
> >>> Jeff Brown
> >>> 949-350-5123
> >> 
> >> ???????????????????
> >> I work irregular hours and often write emails late in the evening and at
> > weekends; that doesn?t mean I expect you to do the same; reply when
> > convenient!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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