[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 2931, Issue 1: 1. Throttle issue (Onat Dogruer)
Gus Macdonald
rathlyn1 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 6 07:39:30 PDT 2017
Many thanks Doug. A very good article. My boat has always been in fish water, so maybe the water injection point is not an issue but the exhaust could possibly need inspection.
Gus
Hull #999
Lindisfarne
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 8:26 AM, Doug Treff <doug at treff.us> wrote:
>
> http://www.sailmagazine.com/diy/maintaining-your-diesel-exhaust/
>
> Everything you need to know about this topic...
>
> --
> Doug Treff
> September Song #350
> doug at treff.us
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017, at 07:51 AM, Gus Macdonald wrote:
>> Can you please describe the location of the exhaust elbow and the
>> procedure for inspection and cleaning.
>>
>> Gus
>> Hull # 999
>>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Daniel Enright <enrightd at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> You have a clogged (mixing elbow) exhaust elbow. I had the same issue last
>>> week.
>>>
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>>> 1. Throttle issue (Onat Dogruer)
>>> 2. Fuel sending gauge (Jeffrey Brown)
>>> 3. Re: Fuel sending gauge (Graeme Clark)
>>> 4. Re: Fuel sending gauge (Jeffrey Brown)
>>> 5. Re: Fuel sending gauge (Rick Sulewski)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 17:43:59 -0400
>>> From: Onat Dogruer <onat_s at yahoo.com>
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Throttle issue
>>> Message-ID: <636330.17839.bm at smtp221.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> We have the Yanmar 3GM30F(EU) on our 1998 and this weekend I noticed a
>>> problem with throttle. There is no RPM pick up once I pass 2200 and then
>>> when I push the trottle all the way, it only pushes out 2860 rpm. I first
>>> thought the cable was slipping so I checked both the helm arm and on
>>> governor arm side connections. It looks normal. I then tried it in neutral
>>> and noticed that I can get full 3660 rpm on neutral (checked with a laser
>>> tachometer) Went out for a short cruise and again noticed that I can't get
>>> more than 2800 in Forward.?
>>> Also fuel looks clean. I am going to change the fuel filter regardless. The
>>> issue seem to be only when we are on forward which doesn't make any sense.
>>> What am I missing here? Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 09:04:47 -0700
>>> From: Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com>
>>> To: Catalina C320 List List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Fuel sending gauge
>>> Message-ID: <C73C60D1-1A9C-4994-9B86-F95B9276719A at mac.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> I'm hull 78 and wondering if anyone near my hull number replaced their fuel
>>> sending gauge without pulling out the tank. One of the bolts is hard to get
>>> to. Just wondering before I begin removal of the tank. I'm even considering
>>> replacing the whole tank if I'm going to this much work. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Jeff Brown
>>> 949-350-5123
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 17:07:21 +0100
>>> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
>>> To: Catalina list <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel sending gauge
>>> Message-ID: <3D7DA3F2-4951-4FC6-A498-33EB97F9E445 at skyflyer.co.uk>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> Have you removed the two wooden floor pieces above the tank. It?s fiddly but
>>> it can be done.
>>>
>>> Graeme
>>>
>>>> On 4 Jul 2017, at 17:04, Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm hull 78 and wondering if anyone near my hull number replaced their
>>> fuel sending gauge without pulling out the tank. One of the bolts is hard to
>>> get to. Just wondering before I begin removal of the tank. I'm even
>>> considering replacing the whole tank if I'm going to this much work. Any
>>> thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Brown
>>>> 949-350-5123
>>>
>>> ???????????????????
>>> I work irregular hours and often write emails late in the evening and at
>>> weekends; that doesn?t mean I expect you to do the same; reply when
>>> convenient!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 09:10:54 -0700
>>> From: Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com>
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel sending gauge
>>> Message-ID: <35F8B40F-BF3F-44FF-9549-D559FC579426 at mac.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> Yes I did. The problem is one or two of the five bolts that hold the unit in
>>> are underneath some fiberglass from the aft storage locker that comes out.
>>> The space isn't sufficient to allow the bolt to be removed. I need to lift
>>> the tank out a bit but that requires moving around a lot of stuff.
>>>
>>> Jeff Brown
>>> 949-350-5123
>>>
>>>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> Have you removed the two wooden floor pieces above the tank. It?s fiddly
>>> but it can be done.
>>>>
>>>> Graeme
>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Jul 2017, at 17:04, Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm hull 78 and wondering if anyone near my hull number replaced their
>>> fuel sending gauge without pulling out the tank. One of the bolts is hard to
>>> get to. Just wondering before I begin removal of the tank. I'm even
>>> considering replacing the whole tank if I'm going to this much work. Any
>>> thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Brown
>>>>> 949-350-5123
>>>>
>>>> ???????????????????
>>>> I work irregular hours and often write emails late in the evening and at
>>> weekends; that doesn?t mean I expect you to do the same; reply when
>>> convenient!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 13:42:10 -0400
>>> From: "Rick Sulewski" <rsulewski at bex.net>
>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel sending gauge
>>> Message-ID: <000401d2f4ec$dd5c0420$98140c60$@bex.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Jeff, Early 320 hulls had the thinner walled fuel tanks that are more prone
>>> to leaking over time. It is not a matter of if an aging aluminum tank will
>>> leak, but when. Cleaning up the fuel after a leaking tank or even from a
>>> replacement fuel tank sensor, is a real pain. Even a small amount of the
>>> fuel will find its way under the hull liner and move about requiring
>>> repeating some multi-step processes to get out all of the fuel and the
>>> odors. Imagine discovering a large amount of fuel under the liner.... I
>>> replaced my tank on hull #277 tank after having a fuel sender leak on my
>>> topped off tank over a winter storage period. I found the tank replacement
>>> to be much less work than cleaning up the leaked fuel. I did not want to
>>> repeat the fuel cleaning process when my tank finally failed (with my luck
>>> would occur over a storage season). You can save yourself a lot of work if
>>> you can find your way to replace the tank earlier than later. I also
>>> replaced the fuel hoses from the tank
>>> to the engine when I replaced the tank to ensure the next likely leak
>>> source was addressed. As our 320 hulls age, there are some predictable
>>> preventative maintenance schedules that could be gleaned from this owner
>>> list to avoid sailing season interruptions and avoid predictable problems.
>>> Replacing an aging original fuel tank on early hulls that had thin walled
>>> tanks is one such preventative maintenance task that will improve your
>>> vessel's condition, rather than waiting for a predictable failure!
>>>
>>> If you really want to take your chances on your older tank given your hull
>>> #, you can hang upside down from the aft corner locker (after removing the
>>> lid) and then go about replacing the fuel sender. You will need to remove
>>> the wooden shelf pieces above the tank and then find the correct tools to
>>> reach/replace all of the sender screws. Just as a precaution, I suggest that
>>> you consider applying some fuel resistant sealant paste, (like from NAPA -
>>> white, that is used when installing a fuel fitting) and paint (goo-up) the
>>> replaced fuel gauge sender unit AFTER it is installed. Be sure to heavily
>>> coat all areas of the sender, including all of the screws and around the
>>> gasket, but only after installing the fuel sender and only after checking
>>> that your fuel gauge is working to ensure you have properly re-attached all
>>> of the wires and connectors. The sealant will help to keep fuel from ever
>>> leaking from fuel sender gasket edges and from screws securing the sender,
>>> all potential l eak areas as l I learned. I applied the sealant to a
>>> leaking sender and that solved my leak problem for one season before finally
>>> determined it was time to avoid another fuel clean-up and just replace the
>>> tank at the end of the season after I had used up most all of the fuel
>>> leaving me with a nearly empty tank. If you decide to replace the tank, be
>>> sure to order an access port for about $65, so you can more easily clean up
>>> the tank by hand if ever necessary or simply access the tank to pump out
>>> about a half-gallon of the dirty fuel gunk and water that will settle to the
>>> bottom after about every 3-5 years.
>>> Rick Sulewski
>>> C320 95' Hull # 277
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Jeffrey Brown
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2017 12:11 PM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel sending gauge
>>>
>>> Yes I did. The problem is one or two of the five bolts that hold the unit in
>>> are underneath some fiberglass from the aft storage locker that comes out.
>>> The space isn't sufficient to allow the bolt to be removed. I need to lift
>>> the tank out a bit but that requires moving around a lot of stuff.
>>>
>>> Jeff Brown
>>> 949-350-5123
>>>
>>>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> Have you removed the two wooden floor pieces above the tank. It?s fiddly
>>> but it can be done.
>>>>
>>>> Graeme
>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Jul 2017, at 17:04, Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm hull 78 and wondering if anyone near my hull number replaced their
>>> fuel sending gauge without pulling out the tank. One of the bolts is hard to
>>> get to. Just wondering before I begin removal of the tank. I'm even
>>> considering replacing the whole tank if I'm going to this much work. Any
>>> thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Brown
>>>>> 949-350-5123
>>>>
>>>> ???????????????????
>>>> I work irregular hours and often write emails late in the evening and at
>>> weekends; that doesn?t mean I expect you to do the same; reply when
>>> convenient!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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