[C320-list] Port Window Advice Requested

[Christian]

When I bought my 320 5 years ago, I went down the rabbit hole of chasing
leaks from many of my opening port lights.  First started with replacing
the O ring in the dog ears.  Still leaked.  Then replaced the gaskets on
all (super annoying job due to factory silicon adhesive), still leaked.
Wasn't until I read about the G gasket (in the seam of the aluminum frame,
viewable external, on the horizontal split), until I realized mine were
rotten on almost all port lights.  Was a relative easy fix with Dow 795,
and carefully taping off the seam.  No more leaks.  Just mentioning that
new lens alone might not stop your leak.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 5:15 PM Karl Krueger <smoothsail282 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm replacing them because of leaks and the windows are very glazed.
>
> Karl
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 5:05 PM Christian <ccaper at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Karl,
> > mind if I ask motivation for replacing, and what you are replacing?
> Lens,
> > aluminum frame, gaskets, o-rings in dog ears?
> >
> > Just ask because if it's to fix a leak, only replacing the lens might not
> > be the root of your problem.
> > 1994 C320 #138 Chicago
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 4:51 PM Karl Krueger <smoothsail282 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello All:
> > >
> > > It's time for me to replace 4 (in the salon area) opening port light
> > > hatches.  It looks as if Catalina Direct has the best price.
> > >
> > > Has anyone ordered these items from Catalina Direct?  Also, any advice
> > for
> > > installation?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Karl Krueger
> > > Kindred Spirit #282
> > > Milwaukee WI
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 9:31 AM John morrison <
> sail-ability at sympatico.ca
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I’m in the process of replacing all the propane hoses on my 23 year
> old
> > > > boat. From the propane locker I’ve taken the complete assembly, 2
> short
> > > > hoses plus the gauge, solenoid valve and regulator, to a local
> propane
> > > > dealer to have it all replaced except for the gauge. I will replace
> the
> > > > long run hose inside the vessel. I can buy the hose and fittings from
> > our
> > > > local chandlery. I’ve also read that these hoses should be replaced
> > > every 5
> > > > years, but I’m thinking 10 is probably safe. Perhaps there is a gas
> > > > engineer out there who can confirm this?
> > > > JohnM
> > > > 1999#574
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 15, 2021, at 8:27 AM, kendgb <kendgb at aol.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Dennis.  Thanks for your info.  Can you tell the outside
> > diameter
> > > > of the copper tube used and where the copper was run to to attach to
> a
> > > > rubber hose.  In other words where are the copper to rubber joints
> > > > located.ThanksKen GeigerNorthern Dream #765 2000Sent from my Samsung
> > > Galaxy
> > > > smartphone.
> > > > > -------- Original message --------From: Dennis Cookson <
> > > > dennis at cooksons.net> Date: 2021-03-15  08:10  (GMT-05:00) To:
> > > > C320-List at catalina320.com Subject: [C320 There’s not a lot of
> > > information
> > > > about this topic in the C320 discussion history, so I’m posting this
> as
> > > an
> > > > advisory which might be helpful to other owners.We finally got around
> > to
> > > > replacing the rubber hose that runs from the propane gas locker on
> the
> > > aft
> > > > port side to the gas stove in the galley, as an essential upgrade
> > > strongly
> > > > recommended by our surveyor a while back. Although the existing hose
> > > still
> > > > works fine and appears to be in good shape, it is well past its
> > > recommended
> > > > lifetime for propane use of just 5 years.  This is because propane
> > > attacks
> > > > the rubber from the inside, and it is impossible to see the internal
> > > stress
> > > > and damage that may have occurred. Should you be unlucky enough to
> > have a
> > > > leak while the hose is pressurised, the escaping gas will sink to the
> > > > bilges of the boat, being heavier than air, where it will stay until
> > > > ventilated, creating a potentially disastrous hazard.It is usually a
> > > > condition of insurance policies that gas installations are maintained
> > to
> > > > meet local regulations, and here in the UK, certified by ‘Gas Safe’
> > > > registered engineers.  The regulations state that the replacement
> must
> > > > deploy copper pipe (typically 10mm thick wall) from the isolation
> valve
> > > in
> > > > the gas locker all the way to a termination point with shut-off valve
> > at
> > > > the stove, with just a metre of flexible hose at each end for the
> > > > connections.  The hose behind the stove should be braided for
> > additional
> > > > protection. So we can’t simply replace like for like.Although in
> theory
> > > you
> > > > could perform the work yourself to the appropriate standards, it
> would
> > > > still need to be checked, tested, and certified by a registered
> > engineer
> > > to
> > > > meet the insurance requirements. So this is an expensive job, and one
> > > that
> > > > owners naturally prefer not to think about. But if your current
> > > > installation is well over five years old, which many will be, it’s
> > > > something you can’t really afford to ignore.The good news is that
> > > Catalina
> > > > Yachts did make provision (at least from 1999, the year of our boat)
> > for
> > > > replacement of the hose run from underneath the gas locker to the
> > > cupboard
> > > > under the galley sinks. There is a glassed in plastic conduit tube
> > > through
> > > > which it is possible to pull through a new pipe, whether copper or
> > > rubber,
> > > > using the old rubber one. It requires having one person in the port
> > > > lazarette and another in the galley for this part of the job, which
> > only
> > > > takes a few minutes. The rest of the installation can be done by one
> > > > person.  To avoid the expense of paying for a second contractor, I
> > > offered
> > > > my services to act as the engineer's assistant for this task, then
> left
> > > him
> > > > to complete the work alone.Dennis CooksonCatalina #577
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI,
> > > RE/MAX Realty 100
> > > Phone - 414-322-6541
> > > Fax - 414-327-6870
> > >
> > > Have a smooth sailing day.................................
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
>
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>
>
> Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI,
> RE/MAX Realty 100
> Phone - 414-322-6541
> Fax - 414-327-6870
>
> Have a smooth sailing day.................................
>